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		<title>By: Jillian C. York</title>
		<link>http://www.missiontolearn.com/2009/08/internet-improves-writing/comment-page-1/#comment-6941</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillian C. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carrie,
I am a part of this younger generation and I find such things completely unacceptable.  I won&#039;t follow people on Twitter whose languages consist mostly of &quot;b4s&quot; and &quot;2 Us&quot; and I don&#039;t want to see it in my advertising either (I have a suspicion as well that E-Z Pass and UHaul&#039;s names had more to do with ability to brand than anything else).

That said, I recognize that I&#039;m judgemental - I look at people who write that way and I see laziness and a disregard for the rules of the English language.  Call me judgemental, but I&#039;m rarely wrong about them, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carrie,<br />
I am a part of this younger generation and I find such things completely unacceptable.  I won&#8217;t follow people on Twitter whose languages consist mostly of &#8220;b4s&#8221; and &#8220;2 Us&#8221; and I don&#8217;t want to see it in my advertising either (I have a suspicion as well that E-Z Pass and UHaul&#8217;s names had more to do with ability to brand than anything else).</p>
<p>That said, I recognize that I&#8217;m judgemental &#8211; I look at people who write that way and I see laziness and a disregard for the rules of the English language.  Call me judgemental, but I&#8217;m rarely wrong about them, either.</p>
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		<title>By: carrie at umass</title>
		<link>http://www.missiontolearn.com/2009/08/internet-improves-writing/comment-page-1/#comment-6934</link>
		<dc:creator>carrie at umass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t a phenomena associated solely with technology. Growing up I remember walking to the Qwik-E Mart for a slurpee or Kev&#039;s Korner Store for a gallon of milk for mum.  It&#039;s not just small town store owners, several northeastern states launched the E-Z Pass toll collection system a decade ago. Did anyone get upset when UHaul coined that very apprapo term for what services they offer (you, hauling your own stuff)? Slang, slogans, IMs...we chop up the words we use to make communicating easier, faster, more direct. We speak in terms that are fun, lively and write in terms that are quick, direct and decorative.

If a high school grad today filled out a job application using her day-to-day text chat terminology she wouldn&#039;t likely get a call for an interview. So, yes, she does need to learn traditional American English. Likewise she must learn professional conversational English. But is that because it is the be all, end all of communication in this country? Or is it because the people most likely to be reading her resume and interviewing her don&#039;t speak &#039;text&#039;? The generation gap has something to do with acceptance of new words and phrases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t a phenomena associated solely with technology. Growing up I remember walking to the Qwik-E Mart for a slurpee or Kev&#8217;s Korner Store for a gallon of milk for mum.  It&#8217;s not just small town store owners, several northeastern states launched the E-Z Pass toll collection system a decade ago. Did anyone get upset when UHaul coined that very apprapo term for what services they offer (you, hauling your own stuff)? Slang, slogans, IMs&#8230;we chop up the words we use to make communicating easier, faster, more direct. We speak in terms that are fun, lively and write in terms that are quick, direct and decorative.</p>
<p>If a high school grad today filled out a job application using her day-to-day text chat terminology she wouldn&#8217;t likely get a call for an interview. So, yes, she does need to learn traditional American English. Likewise she must learn professional conversational English. But is that because it is the be all, end all of communication in this country? Or is it because the people most likely to be reading her resume and interviewing her don&#8217;t speak &#8216;text&#8217;? The generation gap has something to do with acceptance of new words and phrases.</p>
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		<title>By: jtcobb</title>
		<link>http://www.missiontolearn.com/2009/08/internet-improves-writing/comment-page-1/#comment-6919</link>
		<dc:creator>jtcobb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jillian - I think I fall more in the &quot;even imperfect practice is worthwhile&quot; camp, but I understand what you mean. These are, as they say, &quot;interesting times.&quot; I assume that Lunsford will continue the type of research she is doing, as will others. I look forward (I think!) to seeing how things play out over the long haul.  - Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jillian &#8211; I think I fall more in the &#8220;even imperfect practice is worthwhile&#8221; camp, but I understand what you mean. These are, as they say, &#8220;interesting times.&#8221; I assume that Lunsford will continue the type of research she is doing, as will others. I look forward (I think!) to seeing how things play out over the long haul.  &#8211; Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Jillian C. York</title>
		<link>http://www.missiontolearn.com/2009/08/internet-improves-writing/comment-page-1/#comment-6871</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillian C. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeff - Hmm...I see your point, but as a teacher, you&#039;re seeing writing learners (regardless of level) - I&#039;ve taught English too (even worse, EFL!) and the level of mistakes expected is certainly higher than that expected from writers.

That said, I think what I meant is this - I&#039;ve noticed the standard for blogs, online &quot;newspapers&quot; and even online versions of mainstream media (e.g. NYTimes, WSJ) has decreased.  It seems that, particularly with the advent of &quot;professional blogging&quot; (a broad category, of course), the amount of writing online that ever sees an editor has decreased.  Blogs written by journalists in particular (think The Lede) have shockingly low standards of grammar of spelling.

Considering all of that, perhaps I was a bit harsh on &quot;us&quot; (being your average bloggers and Twitter users) - we ARE, in fact, writing more.  I think what I mean is that, when standards are lower across the board, our own standards for what&#039;s acceptable decrease as well.  We consider it okay to write things like &quot;B4&quot; because we see the pros do it.

I was always taught that &quot;practice doesn&#039;t make perfect - perfect practice makes perfect.&quot;  Therefore, the idea that we&#039;re practicing writing &quot;skills&quot; is questionable - skills do improve over time, but if we&#039;re not practicing them properly, how can they ever grow? - Jillian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff &#8211; Hmm&#8230;I see your point, but as a teacher, you&#8217;re seeing writing learners (regardless of level) &#8211; I&#8217;ve taught English too (even worse, EFL!) and the level of mistakes expected is certainly higher than that expected from writers.</p>
<p>That said, I think what I meant is this &#8211; I&#8217;ve noticed the standard for blogs, online &#8220;newspapers&#8221; and even online versions of mainstream media (e.g. NYTimes, WSJ) has decreased.  It seems that, particularly with the advent of &#8220;professional blogging&#8221; (a broad category, of course), the amount of writing online that ever sees an editor has decreased.  Blogs written by journalists in particular (think The Lede) have shockingly low standards of grammar of spelling.</p>
<p>Considering all of that, perhaps I was a bit harsh on &#8220;us&#8221; (being your average bloggers and Twitter users) &#8211; we ARE, in fact, writing more.  I think what I mean is that, when standards are lower across the board, our own standards for what&#8217;s acceptable decrease as well.  We consider it okay to write things like &#8220;B4&#8243; because we see the pros do it.</p>
<p>I was always taught that &#8220;practice doesn&#8217;t make perfect &#8211; perfect practice makes perfect.&#8221;  Therefore, the idea that we&#8217;re practicing writing &#8220;skills&#8221; is questionable &#8211; skills do improve over time, but if we&#8217;re not practicing them properly, how can they ever grow? &#8211; Jillian</p>
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		<title>By: jtcobb</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jillian - Thanks for commenting - and strong disagreement is welcome. (Certainly beats silence!) I wonder, when you say the quality of grammar and spelling has drastically decreased, what is your point of comparison? Are you seeing it decrease in blogs and tweets? Or are you saying that the quality of writing is worse than what we have traditionally seen offline? Having seen a lot of bad offline writing (particularly as a composition teacher), I&#039;m not sure I really see worse writing online. Mainly the volume is much higher, along with the corresponding volume of mistakes. And both are much more visible than has ever been the case in the past. Of course, if there is evidence that as people blog and tweet their writing skills decrease over time, that would be very interesting, and to a certain extent, counter-intuitive, given that skills generally tend to improve with practice. - Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jillian &#8211; Thanks for commenting &#8211; and strong disagreement is welcome. (Certainly beats silence!) I wonder, when you say the quality of grammar and spelling has drastically decreased, what is your point of comparison? Are you seeing it decrease in blogs and tweets? Or are you saying that the quality of writing is worse than what we have traditionally seen offline? Having seen a lot of bad offline writing (particularly as a composition teacher), I&#8217;m not sure I really see worse writing online. Mainly the volume is much higher, along with the corresponding volume of mistakes. And both are much more visible than has ever been the case in the past. Of course, if there is evidence that as people blog and tweet their writing skills decrease over time, that would be very interesting, and to a certain extent, counter-intuitive, given that skills generally tend to improve with practice. &#8211; Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Jillian C. York</title>
		<link>http://www.missiontolearn.com/2009/08/internet-improves-writing/comment-page-1/#comment-6777</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillian C. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given the amount of time I spend online and the amount of blogs and tweets I read, I have to strongly disagree - the quality of grammar and spelling has drastically decreased.  As Wired put it this month, we&#039;ve entered the era of &quot;good enough&quot; - most writing online is just that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the amount of time I spend online and the amount of blogs and tweets I read, I have to strongly disagree &#8211; the quality of grammar and spelling has drastically decreased.  As Wired put it this month, we&#8217;ve entered the era of &#8220;good enough&#8221; &#8211; most writing online is just that.</p>
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